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Nemanja
Wait wait . . .
Bomb truck for just one GLA general !?!??
I thought 2.0 will not use ZH "Lets cripple one (or two) General(s) to make it (them) "unique"),
Bomb Truck is essential bit of arsenal of faction like GLA,in fact I'll go far to call it game decider
alongside Phantom Angry Mob,why you guys decided for such a radical move ?
GeneralCamo
Remember, the removal of one unit from one General does not mean the crippling of another. While one may not have a bomb truck per say, they might have another unit fulfilling a similar role (A bomb buggy for example, or Partisans)
SpiralSpectre
QUOTE (MARS @ 23 May 2013, 2:03) *
Obsolete/misleading information will be marked in red. Consider them outdated and do not mention them anywhere.

Could we mention which units had their affiliation changed during development in the trivia section? Like mentioning Terrorist was originally planned to be unique to Terror Cell but became a generic GLA unit later?
QUOTE (Re_Simeone @ 23 May 2013, 2:49) *
Wait wait . . .
Bomb truck for just one GLA general !?!??
I thought 2.0 will not use ZH "Lets cripple one (or two) General(s) to make it (them) "unique"),
Bomb Truck is essential bit of arsenal of faction like GLA,in fact I'll go far to call it game decider
alongside Phantom Angry Mob,why you guys decided for such a radical move ?

That has been in the ini for ages... anyway the other two won't get the Bomb Truck but they could be getting completely different unique units instead, units that would fit in their theme. Like Warlord might actually get a completely new, not yet introduced vehicle that represents "overwhelming brutality" instead of suicide rushing Bomb Trucks.

Plus like you said, Bomb Trucks are game deciders. Would you like every single GLA gen to get the same game decider to decide their games? How would that be distinct? Its the same reason I really support making other game deciders like Ovies or Paladins unique as well (naturally provided other gens get something different yet equally awesome to decide their games which common sense suggests they would).
Knossos
QUOTE (swedishplayer-97 @ 23 May 2013, 3:38) *
You don't have to specify if you did it Knossos, but you could remove the "[ToDo]" from the top.


Oh that, I was afraid of doing that, and it lets you know that you could still edit it.
Knossos
Question; I want to build an article about the two ECA prtocols (Manticore and Pandora) Should I build in one article or separately?
Arcus2611
Er, the unit pages for the Manticore and Pandora already exist.
SpiralSpectre
QUOTE (Knossos @ 23 May 2013, 21:07) *
Question; I want to build an article about the two ECA prtocols (Manticore and Pandora) Should I build in one article or separately?

If you're talking about writing an article on the level 5 gen power then I say put them in the same article since its a single gen power.
MARS
Right. The unit themselves (Manticore, Pandora, Venom eventually) should all get their own articles but you can make a combined article that deals with the protocols themselves, i.e. why the ECA got pushed to the point of using what is essentially a 21st century version of the infamous Wunderwaffen, the details and implications of each protocol in-lore and in-game etc. This is definitely the stuff that should be rolled into one article.
Knossos
QUOTE (MARS @ 24 May 2013, 0:31) *
Right. The unit themselves (Manticore, Pandora, Venom eventually) should all get their own articles but you can make a combined article that deals with the protocols themselves, i.e. why the ECA got pushed to the point of using what is essentially a 21st century version of the infamous Wunderwaffen, the details and implications of each protocol in-lore and in-game etc. This is definitely the stuff that should be rolled into one article.


Right, thanks.
Svea Rike
So, right now the Rise of the Reds-universe has a game, a wiki and a map. Could we expect a timeline in the future?
MARS
We have a timeline on the main website and I'll likely be expanded/updated for the Wiki at some point after it's all finished.
Svea Rike
QUOTE (MARS @ 24 May 2013, 18:19) *
We have a timeline on the main website and I'll likely be expanded/updated for the Wiki at some point after it's all finished.


Well I meant some sort of list, like:

- March 30, 2039: GLA sabotages bla bla bla.
- August 14, 2040: A Russian helicopter gets destroyed when etc. etc.

Something like that?
MARS
We should only use years and months (if mentioned), not days because that only makes things messy and more difficult to keep track of. Every year in which something important happens should have all the events listed in chronolical order without exact days, exceptions being updates which literally mention full dates because several important events are happening within a short timespan.
Svea Rike
MARS, can you read the small discussion between me and Odhora here and decide which would be better: http://generalsrotr.wikia.com/wiki/Tunnel_Defender#comm-3396
MARS
I'd be in favour of using the newer template from now on because some units don't have abilities or aren't entirely defined by their abilities. I'm also in favour of this because it moves the abiltiies and upgrades further down and lines them up more closely with the tactics which seems appropriate and helps to make the main unit box less full. I admit that it'll be a bit of a hassle to convert all existing pages, but it's still better to decide on a definitive format now than later. Also, I definitely like the dark grey colours on that new template (the one with the Paladin as the example)
Talonek
QUOTE (swedishplayer-97 @ 24 May 2013, 12:45) *
MARS, can you read the small discussion between me and Odhora here and decide which would be better: http://generalsrotr.wikia.com/wiki/Tunnel_Defender#comm-3396


We had already decided to use the new two-unitbox template a few months ago.
Talonek
For information on how to edit the wiki, go to the navigation bar and hover over "Wiki Information", then click on Page Template or Formatting & Technical Info. These are constantly being updated by me.
SpiralSpectre
Then shouldn't "notes" be moved to the second unitbox as well? IMO notes should be close to/come after the "abilities" section as these two are often connected... more like notes lists the "negative abilities" of the units.

And honestly speaking notes should be mentioned at the end of a presentation (ie in the end of the second box), not in the middle of it (ie the end of the first box).
Talonek
Notes are for things like "Coming in ROTR Version 1.82", or "Information as of ROTR Version 1.7".
SpiralSpectre
Actually note like "Information as of ROTR Version 1.7" is just more reason to add the notes to the second box. Abilities and upgrades are part of the information as well. It looks odd if we put "Information as of ROTR Version 1.7" right in the middle of the information. Pretty sure these stuff can be said before or after the information, not in the middle of it.

And notes are frequently used to add stuff like - x unit can't garrison, explodes upon death, must reload after y shot, build limit of 1, must wait z time before training another one etc. Seems like after 1.82 all the drone power requirements will also go there.
TheCeLL
QUOTE (SpiralSpectre @ 28 May 2013, 23:37) *
And notes are frequently used to add stuff like - x unit can't garrison, explodes upon death, must reload after y shot, build limit of 1, must wait z time before training another one etc. Seems like after 1.82 all the drone power requirements will also go there.
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Personally, I think stuff like that would fit better in the Unit Description, not the Notes. The notes should be more of an aside thing just to say stuff like "Unit coming out in 1.82, or 2.0, or unit has been renamed blah blah blah (im lookin at you, viper!)
SpiralSpectre
QUOTE (InsurgentCell @ 30 May 2013, 8:40) *
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Personally, I think stuff like that would fit better in the Unit Description, not the Notes. The notes should be more of an aside thing just to say stuff like "Unit coming out in 1.82, or 2.0, or unit has been renamed blah blah blah (im lookin at you, viper!)

As far as I know info about unit being renamed usually gets placed in the Trivia section of wikis.

Regardless the first question still remains. If you put "Information as of ROTR Version 1.7" in the notes then it looks odd if you say that right in the middle of the information, after giving info about the cost, build time etc but before info about upgrades, abilities etc. Ofc if you strictly only put things like "Coming in ROTR Version 1.82" then it probably doesn't matter where the notes get placed.

Again personally I think stuff like "can't garrison" or "explodes upon death" are pretty necessary that should be mentioned somewhere in the unitbox. Not necessarily in the Notes section, but it should be somewhere in there. But it's your call.
Talonek
Putting notes between Unitbox and upgrades gives it a high chance to be seen and read.
Trivia is mainly for trivial things not related to the Mod itself, such as the Paladin Example.
Sections can be added to the UnitBox if need be, but a box solely for garrisons or explosions on death seems overkill. Explodes on death could be put in the |useguns section if need be.
Talonek
I couldn't do any work to the UnitBoxes last night, due to the power going out, and then staying out for my half of the street, and all of the city East of us.
MARS
Our next update still takes a while but for those of you who are coming here for the story, here's part 1 of our official canon timeline. I'd say we should also post this on the Wiki at some point:

Part 1: Before Generals/ZH; 1980s-2019
Part 2: Generals and ZH; 2019-2028
Part 3: The interwar period; 2028-2040
Part 4: Rise of the Reds; 2040-

PART I - THE NEW MILLENNIUM

1980
- The US Army introduces the M1 Abrams main battle tank.

1981
- The US Army introduces the M2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicle.

1982
- The later American General Gregory Townes is born.

1983
- The later Russian General Leonid Vasilyevich Zhukov is born in St. Petersburg.
- The later British General Charles Cutting is born in the East End of London.

1985
- The US government allocates a black budget of 455 million Dollars for the Aurora project which is rumored to be the codename of a top-secret hypersonic reconnaissance plane to replace the SR-71 Blackbird.
- The later Russian President Nikolai Abramovich Suvorov is born in Moscow.

1988
- The later German General Wolfgang-Maximilian von Kuerten is born in Ulm.

1989
- The later Chinese General Bao Jin loses his parents in the Beijing student protests and is subsequently raised by a state orphanage.
- The Fall of the Berlin Wall marks the beginning of the end of the German Democratic Republic.
- The later 'Death Merchant' and GLA leader Anwar Sulaymaan is born in Haditha, Iraq.

1990
- Operation Desert Storm. A US-led coalition intervenes in Iraq after the country had invaded its neighbor Kuwait. US Air Force Lieutenant Malcolm Granger destroys four enemy SAM sites in a single afternoon during SEAD operations around Baghdad.
- The US Army introduces the M1097 Avenger anti-air vehicle.
- The later Dutch General Willem van der Meer is born in Bergharen.
- West and East Germany are re-united as the Federal Republic of Germany.

1991
- Communist hardliners launch a failed coup against the provisional government of Russia. The Soviet Union is dissolved and Boris Yeltsin becomes the first President of the Russian Federation.

1992
- The later Russian General Yevgeny Romanovich Orlov is born in Irkutsk.
- The Maastricht Treaty is signed, transforming the European Community into the European Union and setting the goal to create a shared currency.

1999
- Russian President Yelsin resigns on December 31 and is replaced by Vladimir Putin in the following year.

2001
- The September 11 attacks are carried out by a group of Al Qaeda terrorists, resulting in the death of 2.996 people.
- Operation Enduring Freedom. A US-led coalition invades Afghanistan to topple the Taliban regime and hunt down the Al Qaeda leadership.

2002
- The Euro is introduced as the new official currency of several European countries.
- Leonid Zhukov is deployed to Grozny during the Second Chechen War.

2003
- Operation Iraqi Freedom. A US-led coalition of countries invades Iraq after its government was accused of possessing weapons of mass destruction.

2004
- The 15-year-old Anwar Sulaymaan takes part in the fight against American troops during the Battle of Fallujah.

2005
- A shady Jordanian immunologist, only known by his internet pseudonym 'Dr. Thrax' disappears into a terrorist-controlled ghetto in Cairo, Egypt.

2006
- British Army Lieutenant Charles Cutting is deployed to the Afghan province of Helmand.
- The Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein is captured by US forces and subsequently trialed and executed.

2007
- The Russian military tests the Father of all Bombs, the most powerful non-nuclear bomb ever detonated.

2008
- For the first time in the history of China, the Olympic Summer Games are hosted in Bejing.
- Leonid Zhukov is deployed to Gori during the South Ossetia War.
- Eugene Griffon enlists for the US Air Force and undergoes training as a drone technician.
- The Great Recession begins, severely damaging the global economy for years to come.

2010
- The European Debt Crisis begins, promting the EU governments to enact a number of controversial policies to save the Euro.
- The Arab Spring. A series of protests and revolutions destabilises several countries in North Africa and the Middle East. The protests in Libya and Syria escalate into all-out civil wars.
- Prince Kassad, the son of a Libyan tribal leader, organises several terrorist attacks against the Gaddafi regime.
- The later soldier and popular European resistance hero Frank Jaeger is born in Duesseldorf, Germany.

2011
- Operation Neptune Spear. Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden is killed by a US Navy SEAL team in Pakistan.
- Amidst the Egyptian revolution, the US embassy in Cairo is hit by a package bomb assembled by Rodall Juhziz, a local Al Qaeda sympathizer.
- The 29-year-old US Army Captain Gregory Townes resigns from a guest scholarship at Westpoint and accepts a new position in the DARPA R&D department for laser technologies.
- The Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi is killed during his escape from Sirte. The National Transitional Council assumes control of Libya but the country remains destabilized.
- The North Korean dictator Kim Jong Il dies and is replaced by his son Kim Jong Un.

2012
- The USS Nelson, a littoral combat ship of the US Navy, is bombed and severely damaged by Rodall Juhziz in the Red Sea.

2014
- The Mudanjiang Disaster. A train carrying experimental nuclear shells crashes in north-eastern China. Colonel Tsing Shi Tao takes full responsibility and volunteers to assist in the recovery of the remaining warheads.

2016
- Yevgeny Orlov is part of a Spetsnaz team that stops the Ultranationalist attack on Moscow Domodedovo Airport, putting an end to the brief uprising of extremist forces against the Russian government.

2017
- Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan merge several resorts of their governments and form the state union of Aldastan despite violent opposition. A Kazakh warlord by the name of Mohmar, also known as 'Deathstrike', denounces the move as a blatant concession to foreign imperialists and creates the Global Liberation Army, an initially loose amalgamation of fundamentalists, local nationalists and tribal groups.
- The M1A4 Paladin, an advanced modification of the now standard M1A3 Abrams is adopted by a small number of elite US armoured units for field evaluation.

2018
- Russian President Putin attends the opening ceremony of the new Vostochny Cosmodrome in the Russian Far-East. The aging Soviet-era Baikonour Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan is slowly disassembled over the following years.
- Alexis Alexander serves as a USMC logistical staffer during a three month long skirmish at the Korean DMZ, erroneously popularised as the Second Korean War by the US media. After lackluster success, a cadre of KPA generals quietly removes the Northern dictator Kim Jong Un and sues for peace on under the status quo ante bellum.
- The crisis in Korea frightens the Asian markets, resulting in the partial collapse of the Chinese real estate bubble which sends tremors across the global economic landscape and results in a period of open infighting within the Chinese government.
- The Taiwan Conflict. Amidst the rising tensions, hardline elements in the PRC leadership invade the Republic of China. The operation is quickly carried out by Shin Fai of the PLA Marine Corps before US forces manage to intervene. The hardliners are subsequently impeached but Taiwan is fully annexed into the People's Republic.
- The reformed Chinese leadership under Chairman Zhao Wei enacts the Modern Way programme, introducing new civil liberties to the People's Republic and expanding the cooperation with Mongolia.

2019
- The ZTZ200G Emperor Tank enters service in parts of the Chinese PLA under the supervision of Ta Hun Kwai.
- Abdul bin Yusuuf's Brotherhood of the White Falcon, a fundamentalist terror group that grew out of the former Al Qaeda, pledges allegiance to the Global Liberation Army in hopes of threatening US interests in the region.
Nemanja
Wait . . . Yelsin dies in 1999 here ?
MARS
QUOTE (Re_Simeone @ 1 Jun 2013, 18:16) *
Wait . . . Yelsin dies in 1999 here ?


Oh, right. Pardon that little error. He obviously resigned in 1999. Kinda slipped me by during proof reading (I've been working on three other parts. Keeping track of all this is bloody hard). No timeline difference intended^^
SpiralSpectre
Man that's a LOT. So Abrams existed in ROTR timeline after all? Wonder why US split up it's duty between Crusader and Paladin.

edit - Hm... maybe it's fate those two grandpas were born in the same year. Is Jin even older than them?
MARS
For all we know, Jin might have been just a few months old when he lost his parents and they might either have been involved in the protests or simply caught in the fighting, trampled in a panic or whatever.
Svea Rike
That's a real nice timeline. I feel like I am intruding on your story for asking this but, will fan-fiction events be included in the next parts?
MARS
I don't know whether I'll canon-check bits of the fan fiction now and post them as part of this incarnation of the timeline or later but you can rest assured that I'll eventually work my way through and make clear statements as to which stuff is compatible.
SpiralSpectre
QUOTE (MARS @ 2 Jun 2013, 0:33) *
For all we know, Jin might have been just a few months old when he lost his parents and they might either have been involved in the protests or simply caught in the fighting, trampled in a panic or whatever.

Personally I wanna believe Jin was at least five when he lost his parents. Since then this tragedy would most likely have a significant role in shaping his current mentality. Yeah I have a thing for characters (specially villains) with childhood trauma/tragedies, despite how cliche it seems these days. smile.gif

Will all the generals have their birth year and/or further career details revealed? I am specially curious about how old Bradley is and when he became a general. He was already a general in the war Chen just started his career as cannon fodder.
Nemanja
I know that this I will ask don't have too much with wiki,
but how Serbia in ROTRs timeline became almost what Yugoslavia was ?
I know that in one update is stated that irredentists took over,but that explanation was somehow short . . .
MARS
QUOTE (SpiralSpectre @ 1 Jun 2013, 23:04) *
Will all the generals have their birth year and/or further career details revealed? I am specially curious about how old Bradley is and when he became a general. He was already a general in the war Chen just started his career as cannon fodder.


Bradley's rank during the Gens/ZH period wasn't stated yet from what I remember. He did already have a commanding role but for all we know, he might have been a Colonel or something. Still didn't stop him from engaging in a rivalry with Kwai, who was presumably higher ranked which only adds to his machismo.

QUOTE (Re_Simeone @ 2 Jun 2013, 2:50) *
I know that this I will ask don't have too much with wiki,
but how Serbia in ROTRs timeline became almost what Yugoslavia was ?
I know that in one update is stated that irredentists took over,but that explanation was somehow short . . .


A military cadre assumed control, made a strategic alliance with Russia (a likely choice given that the in-universe EU is collapsing and that irredentists would probably capitalise on the special relationship of Serbia and Russia more) and presumably conquered or bullied most of the neighbours into a restored, Serbian-ruled version of Yugoslavia whereas Slovenia and Croatia remained unaffected because they remained partners (although not members) of the ECA.
SpiralSpectre
Yeah Bradley's rivalry with Kwai (which was inspired by Patton and Montgomery's reputed rivalry of generals if I remember correctly) made me think he was a general during Global War on Terror. It did sound like he was the man in charge of the final operation. And for someone who wasn't a general, he sure got a lot of attention from and caused a lot of headache for the decision makers.

Bradley is a funny character. His personality seems like the stereotypical Patton-esque macho general type. Yet his settings and faction are what makes him very interesting. He wouldn't be half as interesting if he was a Russian gen since we traditionally see such generals on Russia's side in a typical (Western based) WW3 scenario all the time.
MARS
The gung-ho personality that we chose for Bradley was also part of the reason why we decided to give him the USMC background rather than Thorn, who might have been more fitting with regards to his role (elite infantry, lightweight mobility) but comes off as a more calm, methodical planner rather than a swearing macho hardass who hits the beach alongside his men.
SpiralSpectre
Do you have plans for eventually naming the generals who lead the other major battles in ZH? Like the assault on Thrax for example.

And are we going to find out who were the US and Chinese gens in the Battle of Kurmuk? Were they someone we know? Or is it better if they remain unnamed since that's not something they can exactly be proud of?

And I am really curious so I'll ask - how difficult was the decision of giving Bradley the USMC background? I mean we know the reasons behind ultimately giving him that background but did you at some point feel that making the tank gen a Marine would seem somewhat superficial and out of place? Specially since he isn't getting Marines as unique infantry and stuff like that?

MARS
QUOTE (SpiralSpectre @ 2 Jun 2013, 10:35) *
Do you have plans for eventually naming the generals who lead the other major battles in ZH? Like the assault on Thrax for example.

And are we going to find out who were the US and Chinese gens in the Battle of Kurmuk? Were they someone we know? Or is it better if they remain unnamed since that's not something they can exactly be proud of?

And I am really curious so I'll ask - how difficult was the decision of giving Bradley the USMC background? I mean we know the reasons behind ultimately giving him that background but did you at some point feel that making the tank gen a Marine would seem somewhat superficial and out of place? Specially since he isn't getting Marines as unique infantry and stuff like that?


We might eventually come up with a few one-shot character names for various political and military leaders, but that's another one of those things that we should do later, once the community starts adding lore articles and approved fan-fiction to the Wiki.

As for Bradley, I can see why this whole 'USMC represented as Tank General' thing might be irritating to some people, but it does kinda work in the setting. After the isolation period, the US only deploy their most elite and mobile units outside their home continent. This'd include the Navy and Air Force by default, as well as certain Army units (Rangers) and the entirety of the Marine Corps, but -not- the heavy duty armoured units of the Army. That's where Bradley comes in: The USMC is mostly renowned for its infantry, but it does also have its own armour and air wing. In ROTR, the USMC tank units are the most rapidly deployable tank units the US -have- because the bulk of the Army's mechanised units is now reserved for service on the American continent OR places where the US have a permanent presence, which does not apply to Europe anymore. As such, it is also entirely fair to assume that the Paladin is not exclusive to Bradley in the story, it's just that he (and other Marine genrals) are the only ones who get to deploy Paladins across the globe as rapidly. Back home, the Army would probably use more Paladins than Crusaders. It's still not an ideal depiction because game/faction design always takes precedence over story (hence why Bradley is using the Army's Bradley IFV, although we did acknowledge that the vehicle was forced onto the Corps due to doctrine changes), but at the end of the day, we wanted to have -some- gung-ho Marine representation in the mod and this is the best we could do without any major retcons. Plus, the presence of Rangers in Bradley's arsenal may still be odd, but he - like all US Generals - also gets the Vanguards which are explicitely established as being Marines. They also kick a ton of arse.
MARS
Here's part 2. I intentionally included a few semi-notable plot points (GLA possibly receiving covert support by pre-Suvorov Russia) which haven't been officially talked about yet. This might be an interesting hook for fan-fiction which, if compatible, might be elevated to canon.

PART II - THE GLOBAL WAR ON TERROR

2019
- The first commercial fusion power plant is activated near the Niagara Falls. The energy it produces is fed into the power net of both the United States and Canada, who developed the reactor as a joint project.
- As part of the NATO nuclear sharing program, the United States modernise their stockpiles of B61 thermonuclear bombs in Europe, including those stationed in Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands, Italy and Turkey.
- The GLA detonates a 5 kiloton tactical nuclear weapon during the PRC's 70th anniversary parade in Beijing. The later General Xing Chen is part of a rapid response force that is deployed to the scene. As a response to the GLA threat, the Party government re-institutionalizes the Red Guard as an auxiliary military and police force to complement the People's Liberation Army and inspire nationalist fervor.
- The GLA occupies the Hong Kong Convention Center and takes hundreds of civilian hostages. The fighting spreads throughout the entire Wan Chao district as Chinese forces move in to break the stalemate.
- The GLA launches an attack on the Three Gorges Dam. A Chinese Black Lotus operative issues the controversial order to destroy the dam, citing the swift destruction of the GLA as the more immediate concern. Despite a hasty evacuation attempt, thousands die as cities downriver are flooded by the wave. Chinese state propaganda claims that the dam itself was destroyed by the GLA in order to fan the revanchist fury of the population and prepare for a total mobilisation of all military and industrial resources in the struggle ahead.

2020
- Chinese forces narrowly prevent the GLA from pumping toxic chemicals into the Yangtze River.
- Chinese forces liberate the GLA-controlled city of Balykchy, Aldastan. The US Air Force launches strategic bombing raids to support the ground assault, destroying large parts of the city in the process.
- Chinese special forces led by a Black Lotus operative destroy a major railway bridge in Bishkek, Aldastan, crippling GLA logistics in the region in preparation for a decisive attack on the capital.
- Chinese forces assault Dushanbe, the capital of Aldastan. The GLA's Central Asian branch suffers a heavy blow after General Tsing Shi Tao receives the clearance to deploy tactical nuclear weapons.
- The aftershocks of the ongoing conflict result in a global economic downturn. The European Union is hit hard with France and the Balkan countries, which had only recently joined the Union, at the verge of bankruptcy.
- An American consumer electronics corporation introduces iSaac, a domestic robot with an abstractly humanoid appearance that is capable of performing a variety of household chores.

2021
- GLA forces rally over the destruction of a vital dam in Chinese-controlled Shymkent, Kazakhstan.
- GLA raiders intercept UN aid deliveries near Almaty, Kazakhstan to fund their operations and incite public unrest.
- Violent protests against the Chinese and American operations in Kazakhstan escalate into a city-wide insurrection in Astana.
- The top-secret FB-40 Aurora aircraft is pushed into service by US Air Force as a fast strike bomber and suffers several catastrophic losses against GLA forces.
- With much of Europe destabilised after the economic collapse of Spain, Greece, Italy, Portugal, Slovenia and Cyprus in the previous decade, euroskepticism and anti-capitalism are on the rise across the entire continent. Protests and violent clashes become a common reality, with the Paris Riots standing out as the bloodiest example by far. Most prominently, a left-wing extremist by the name of Tahar Ibrahiim becomes the target of a major manhunt after he sent poisened letters to several politicians and financial executives.

2022
- The first commercial vacuum tube train is activated between Miami and Ottawa.
- GLA forces mount a devastating attack against the US Incirlik Air Force Base in Turkey.
- US special forces launch an attack against the GLA-controlled ex-Soviet bio-chemical laboratories on Vozrozhdeniya, Kazakhstan.
- Bao Jin of the Chinese Ministry of State Security manipulates a Kazakh GLA leader to change sides, triggering a brief internal purge among GLA forces.

2023
- The populist Hope and Glory Party wins the British general election by a landslide. The party rejects further concessions to the European Union and enacts a policy of increased cooperation with Ireland and other Commonwealth nations.
- Despite the troubled polical situation and calls for a public referendum, the EU governments sign the Vienna Treaty which turns the European Union into a de jure federation. Civil rights activists express scathing criticism at the lack of fair democratic representation and dismiss the treaty as a last ditch effort at forcing all of Europe under a single authority. Over the following years, many EU regions in Spain, France and Italy break away in violent secession.
- Hundreds of thousands of refugees swarm into Europe due to the ongoing violence across Central Asia and the Middle East. Many of them end up in a socio-economic dead-end and develop pro-GLA sentiments.

2024
- Anwar Sulaymaan gains the respect of Deathstrike by providing the GLA with a steady flow of income and weapons through international arms deals even in times of great hardships. Western intelligence agencies manage to trace some of the materiel back to Russia, whose government denies any involvement.
- Angered by the EU central government, the Free Republic of Bavaria breaks away from the Union Republic of Germany and survives thanks to a military mutiny involving Wolfgang von Kuerten, who refuses to mobilise against his own people.
- The first module of the Pennsylvania Space Station, then still operated by NASA and the Canadian Space Agency, is successfully suspended in orbit.

2025
- After a vicious battle against Chinese and American defenders, GLA forces occupy the Baikonur Cosmodrome and proceed to launch a series of toxin-tipped Soyuz rockets. The first missile hits the Israeli city of Tel Aviv, killing thousands and prompting the Israeli leadership to enact authoritarian policies for the protection of the state. As the country severs all contact with its neighbours, tensions in the Middle East reach an unprecedented peak.
- GLA forces topple the pro-American regime in Baghdad, prompting the US to commence their third attack on Iraq in order to restore strategic control around the Persian Gulf. Iran and Saudi Arabia are heavily involved in the fight via proxies.
- A US-led manhunt for GLA leaders in Al Hanad, Yemen goes awry. American special forces enter the city to rescue three pilots that had been shot down by the GLA.
- General Malcolm 'Ace' Granger provides aerial security for an American casualty evacuation in northern Kazakhstan.
- Jeremiah Bradley takes part in the USMC coastal assault on a GLA training camp at the Caspian Sea coast.
- GLA hardliners ambush and kill the entire UN delegation during a peace summit in Kazakhstan and destroy a nearby dam to cover their retreat.
- Ismail Khan, a Chinese brigadier general from Xinjiang, defects to the GLA out of solidarity for the oppressed Uyghur people and is subsequently eliminated by the US military.
- Chinese General Ta Hun Kwai and Jeremiah Bradley mount a joint offensive on Akmola, the GLA-controlled capitol of Kazakhstan, dealing a heavy blow to the organisation's Middle Eastern branch.

2026
- The US Navy introduces its own jet-powered, carrier-capable gunship, the Spectre II, in order to provide a more immediate fire support solution than the aging AC-130.
- General Gregory 'Pinpoint' Townes presents the M1097 Avenger-L which replaces the aging anti-air missile system of the original vehicle with a state-of-the-art laser turret.
- With Russian forces unable to coordinate the operation in time, the American specialist Colonel Burton links up with a Chinese Black Lotus operative to destroy one of Dr. Thrax' toxin laboratories near Mount Elbrus, Russia. The US government speculates that the Russian government might be secretly aiding the GLA to further Russian interests in the Middle East.
- The GLA launches a Soyuz rocket at a US naval base in Narvik, Norway. After a failed counter-attack on the Baikonour Cosmodrome by the Russian Army, a task force of American and Norwegian forces puts an end to the GLA occupation by dropping a GBU-43/B directly onto the launch pad.
- US forces deliver a decisive blow against a GLA cell in Mogadishu, Somalia, revealing disturbing intel about the elusive Dr. Thrax, who supplies the organisation with advanced bio-chemical weapons, including a modified strain of the Anthrax virus.
- The violent crisis in the Persian Gulf escalates after the United States accuse the Iranian government of collaborating with Dr. Thrax in an attempt to manufacture bio-chemical weapons for use against the West. US and Saudi forces invade Iran which retaliates by launching coordinated attacks against the desalination facilities that supply the Arabian Peninsula with drinkable water. The result is an unprecedented humanitarian disaster which plunges the entire Middle East into total anarchy.
- The US have tracked Dr. Thrax to a still classified location in the Middle East and initiate a kill-or-capture operation which eventually results in the death of the GLA's top-ranking bio-chemical scientist.
- Despite economic troubles and growing civil discontent at the Kremlin's possible backing of the GLA, the Russian military introduces the first production model of the Sentinel tank. The new super-heavy tank will not see combat until the adoption of its second, more refined version a decade later.
- At this year's Eurosatory exposition, the German defense company KMW unveils an entirely new main battle tank, the Leopard 3. Despite its cutting edge technology, the new tank remains a non-seller for several years with even Germany itself being unable to procure large numbers of it due to the desolate financial situation in Europe.

2027
- Deathstrike avoids capture by US forces and rallies his supporters in the aftermath of the GLA's apparent defeat after eight years of fighting.
- GLA loyalists under the command of Anwar Sulaymaan violently persuade Prince Kassad, leader of the break-away Cobra Cell, to renew his allegiance to Deathstrike by decimating his ranks in Egypt.
- GLA operatives hijack an American Particle Cannon Uplink and destroy the USS Ronald Reagan aircraft carrier off the coast of Crete, Greece. Almost 5.000 US Navy crew members die within minutes, dealing a fatal morale blow to the American home front.
- GLA sleeper cells stage a daring raid on the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California, recovering confiscated samples of the Anthrax Gamma virus developed by Dr. Thrax.
- The GLA attacks the USEUCOM headquarters in Stuttgart, Germany, prompting the American Paulson administration to cave in to its war-weary and crisis-stricken population and hurriedly withdraw most of the overseas forces back to the American homeland. High-ranking dignitaries and nuclear weapons are hastily evacuated from Europe within days. Even though Canada and Turkey remain diplomatically close to the United States, the European component of NATO is factually abolished, putting a severe strain on the US/EU relations.

2028
- After the US retreat, the GLA expends all manpower and resources to trigger an insurrection in Germany, the economic heart of the troubled European Union. The helpless EU central government calls upon China to intervene.
- In an attempt to deliver a hard blow against the Chinese homeland, GLA forces launch an attack on a new nuclear power plant that was built after the destruction of the Three Gorges Dam but fail to cause any serious damage.
- China deploys large contingents of troops to free several German cities from the brutal but unsustainable grip of the GLA, causing drastic damage to the vital infrastructure through the indiscriminate use of incendiary weapons.
- Tahar Ibrahiim joins the GLA and makes a dramatic entrance by dumping several tons of hazardous chemicals into the Rhine river system, rendering large swathes of western Germany uninhabitable until 2060.
- The 18-year-old Frank Jaeger loses his parents as a result of the GLA chemical attack and forms the 'Wolfsrudel', an urban guerilla group of students who fight against the GLA.
- GLA forces fall back towards their main base of operations in Hamburg, Germany while the Chinese Air Force performs relentless attacks on the retreating enemies, turning the famous Autobahn into a highway of death.
- After half a year of fighting, Chinese forces under General 'Anvil' Shin Fai converge on Hamburg. Prior to his departure, Deathstrike orders Rodall Juhziz' Scorpion Cell to obliterate the city with a 10 megaton strategic nuclear warhead. Both Juhziz and Fai die in the explosion, along with thousands of civilians.
Svea Rike
Comes to wonder, MARS, would you grab a rifle and fight the GLA?
MARS
If we're literally talking about an enemy as wretched as the GLA openly ravaging a European country, yes, most certainly.
__CrUsHeR
I would add another important hook in this 'timeline' - a modernization in 2019 of the B-61 nuclear bombs in Europe.

John Kerry Comes to Russia: US Tactical Nukes Stay in Europe

And on the subject what to say about hundreds of nuclear bombs on European soil during periods of turbulence and crisis? The USA repatriated their bombs?
MARS
Since those 'shared' NATO bombs are still technically owned by the US, yes, they most likely did their darn best to get them the hell out of Europe as fast as possible.

Going to add that 2019 date as well as a few more references to NATO history.
__CrUsHeR
I think it's important to note that these bombs are today ensure the security of Europe as a deterrent effect against Russia and are guaranteed existence of NATO and the commitment of the USA to Europe. Russia will not invade the continent knowing that these bombs were at the disposal of the ECA. I believe that for this reason the Pandora had to be used as an alternative nuclear, probably the B-61 are no longer in Europe.
MARS
Right. With NATO out of the picture and the US out of Europe, the ECA obviously wouldn't have access to the American bombs but despite all that, France and the UK still have nuclear arsenals of their own which would then be used for the Pandora protocol.
__CrUsHeR
Exactly.
Cobretti
One error I noted back in the 2003 OIF reference; Lt. Granger didn't take out enemy SAM sites then, it was during the 1991 Gulf War that he did so.
MARS
Thanks for clearing that up. Fixed.
__CrUsHeR
Another important thing to mention in the timeline is when starting the main military projects of drones in the USA - in 1995 RQ-1/MQ-1 Predator UAV and in 2005 through the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) - a consortium between several companies and NASA - being the drones BigDog, 2005 and Petman, 2013 the main projects.

RQ-1 / MQ-1 Predator
DARPA
BigDog
Petman
Svea Rike
QUOTE (MARS @ 2 Jun 2013, 11:56) *
- The GLA launches a Soyuz rocket at a US naval base in Narvik, Norway. After a failed counter-attack on the Baikonour Cosmodrome by the Russian Army, a task force of American and Norwegian forces puts an end to the GLA occupation by dropping a GBU-43/B directly onto the launch pad.


Wasn't it the Chinese that attacked it but failed?
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